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valitalian MTS: Not specified
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: USA Phila (USVI soon) ITALY Sorrento NA
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:50 am |
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Greetings,
I am Italian but spend most of the year in the USA (summers in Europe).
I have considered buying a Multi since it first came out and now that they finally have a more confortable seat and taller windshield I am readyER to get one to do some serious cruising since I do not have a car there.
I have this dilemma: given that my income is Euro is small and most of it is in Dollars, should I go there this summer and just get it at 12000 Euros or get it in the US at 12000 Dollars and then ship it overseas before leaving the US?
I know full well that the Euro is worth about a Dollar and a quarter. A bike purchased here in the States at 12000 plus taxes and tags then the cost of shipping overseas, still don't catch 12000 Euros (15000 Dollars) right?
Anyone who has done shipping overseas or otherwise has some good advice please respond.
P.S. Are accessories cheaper in Italy?
Thank you. [/list][/quote] |
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_________________ For some there is therapy, for the rest of us there is motorcycles... by the way I still miss my ex, but my aim is improving! |
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jbcaddy MTS: Not specified
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 33 Location: hangtown USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:33 pm |
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I would check with customs before I bought a bike in the USA to reimport to Italy. fees may eat up your savings on the euro vs. dollar difference. while he is not in Italy you might try to get the attention of Doc who is a MUlti rider in Greece. he may be able to give you an idea of prices for goodies. |
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falcofred MTS: 2004 1000 DS (Red)
Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 731 Location: N.E. Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:44 pm |
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My dream is to buy a Ducati here in the USA, and take delivery in Italy
Then take an extended vacation and tour the Alps, riding by day and drinking by night
I'll just have to be satisfied with my MTS for now, as wife, kids, work etc. are preventing me from for filling my dream. |
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_________________ Loud Clutches Save Lives! |
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Multibound MTS: Not specified
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 344 Location: Crestview, FL
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:21 am |
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Dont think that is going to happen. As an American living in Europe i was able to purchase a US spec from Ducati of Germany who ordered direct through Bologna, Italy. But as for the other way around i do not think it is possible.
From what i was told by Ducati, only Ducati of North America recieves US models and nothing more and is not allowed to get euro spec bikes from europe. Besides if you could the charges in customs and shipping would most likely equate to what you would pay for it in Italy. Best bet might be to buy factory direct in Bologna, or in another european country for a better price. |
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_________________ Red 2004 1000DS
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marcello79 MTS: Not specified
Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Borgo Panigale (Bologna), Italy
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:53 am |
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As far as I know, at least for australian and british people, Ducati provides the possibility to buy a bike directly here in Bologna.
Last year I met here in Borgo Panigale some australian guys who bought an all-inclusive bundle that included:
-Flight to-from Bologna (and hotel)
-Ducati ST4 with australian specs, plates and documents
-A guided shake down through local roads
It was WWDW time, so I don't know if it was a special offer, as I don't know aboute the price.
I can only say tha those guys were really happy!
Marcello |
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dadelgrosso MTS: Not specified
Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 20 Location: Casa Grande, Arizona USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:09 am |
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Any US spec bike will be a problem to register in Italy. I have a 87 Kawasaki I left with my sister in Umbria when I toured in 98 and my cousins have tried everything to get it registered and insured. I would think you could buy a Ducati cheaper in Italy than the US. |
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valitalian MTS: Not specified
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: USA Phila (USVI soon) ITALY Sorrento NA
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:18 pm |
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I get it, I better buy it in Italy and hope the Euro goes down a little this summer.
Thanks to all for your inputs.
HOVEVER
Marcello, I read that you are from Borgo Panigale, DUCATILAND, can you tell me if is better (or cheaper) to buy factory direct or should I go to a dealer in another region of Italy? Which one eventually? I heard that in the north they seem to be pricier!
Anyone who knows the answer to that PLEASE give me an imput.
Thank you - Grazie. |
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_________________ For some there is therapy, for the rest of us there is motorcycles... by the way I still miss my ex, but my aim is improving! |
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bill1 No Multistrada
Joined: 13 Jun 2005 Posts: 4 Location: NM /WI
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:15 pm |
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Can you pick up a US spec bike at the factory?
If so how?
Bill |
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JamesG MTS: Not specified
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Baghdad, Iraq
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:59 am |
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bill1 wrote: | | | | Can you pick up a US spec bike at the factory?
If so how?
Bill | | | |
Probably not, and why would you want to?
this is a similar problem to trying to get Canadian bikes across in to the US. assides from the paperwork involved, the bike must also have its speedometer changed to show miles vs. kilometers, and also be "homogulated" with the DOT and EPA.
A big pain in the rear.
A few years ago I looked at buying an Italian market 900SS from a guy in the Army who had brought one home . He was honest enough to admit that the reason he was selling it was to avoid the hassle of trying to get it titled and registered in the US.
Best of luck with what every you decide to do. |
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xlcafe MTS: Not specified
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 218 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:06 pm |
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Quote: | | | [quote="JamesG"] bill1 wrote: | | | | Can you pick up a US spec bike at the factory?
If so how?
Bill | | | |
Probably not, and why would you want to? | | | |
BMW and Mercedes have a program where you can order a US spec car and pick it up at the factory in Germany. People do this because they get to drive in Germany on the Autobahn, tour the factory, and make a vacation out of it. Not a bad way to buy a car, if you can afford it.
I wouldn't mind going to Italy, pick up my bike at the factory and ride around Europe for a month and then head back to the US...sounds like fun to me.
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Multibound MTS: Not specified
Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 344 Location: Crestview, FL
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:19 pm |
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bill1 wrote: | | | | Can you pick up a US spec bike at the factory?
If so how?
Bill | | | |
That is how i got mine. Straight from Bologna using a german dealer. Paid the US list price for it, so not much of a discount. But your going to pay to have it shipped to the US. And i dont think you can register a US bike over here to ride around for a bit either.
1. Your not a european citezen and dont have a euro license, address etc.
2. Who is going to insure you, if so it aint cheap.
3. Its expensive just to register it depending on the country, and its US spec. Not going to happen!
Good luck with that!
I am US military so that is all taken care of for free. |
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doctor_john MTS: Not specified
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 151 Location: Hellas / Athens
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:51 pm |
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dear Valitalian,
i think that your problem has an easy solution...
if you get payed with US dollars, BUY IN US! and rent one for your vacations
if you get payed with Euros... BUY IN US! and do you vacation in US also!
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valitalian MTS: Not specified
Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 11 Location: USA Phila (USVI soon) ITALY Sorrento NA
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:39 pm |
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doctor_john wrote: | | | | dear Valitalian,
i think that your problem has an easy solution...
if you get payed with US dollars, BUY IN US! | | | |
I get paid in Euros and in US Dollars (I rent homes). What makes me wonder is:
if cheap shipping, changing the muffler to European specs and pay Italian import taxes, then a river of paperworks to register it there, is worth the saving of 1/4 of the price of buying in Italy in Euros.
The other alternative would be also to buy it in the US but keep it there with US licence plates (likely to get less tickets ) so NOT changing the plates, NOT paying import taxes and paying US taxes, US licence plates, registration and off course shipping overseas.
If anyone has done that, please tell me if its worth it. TY Val |
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_________________ For some there is therapy, for the rest of us there is motorcycles... by the way I still miss my ex, but my aim is improving! |
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