Thanks for all the feedback. The pilot sayings are fantastic, I especially like the one about pilots using superior judgement to avoid situations where they would have to use their superior skills.

I'm surprised how many people have recommended track days. I'll check that out after a bit more time ...

I stopped by the dealer today and sat on a lot of bikes. I got there too late to do a demo ride, so scheduled one for tomorrow. I walked out and was sitting on my little S40, ready to go home... and realized I was going to go for it.

So no reason to beat around the bush. I walked back in and ...

Thanks for all the feedback guys. It looks like the local dealer has a couple 620's in stock

Thanks guys, it sounds like used is the way to go.

The only one on craiglist in my area is a 1200 though. If price isn't a concern, then it seems like it would be ok if kept in urban mode, since it's essentially about the same as a 1000/1100 in that mode, but more expensive to drop.

The 620 ...

Thanks nav18tor, that's good advice. Perhaps a BMW F650gs (71 hp) would be a good alternative. Or the f800 with dual disc brakes up front. It looks like they are about half the cost.

Anytime I read about BMWs though it sounds like they need a lot of maintenance.

Also I've read about the G650gs ...

Hey all,

I'm a fairly new rider, with 2 months and 1300 miles under the belt. I have a Suzuki S40 (650cc single cylinder, 30hp, 380lbs). The only reason I haven't ridden more is because the bike is too small and uncomfortable for longer rides. The buzzy handlebars, poor suspension, and cramped ride ...